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Postby jon » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:43 am

bomb and kill children and mothers in a country that is theirs in our attempt to give them what we think they need and not what they want...peace.

A lot of civilians were killed and hurt [by the Allies] in World War II, not just in Germany, but in the countries the Nazis invaded, such as Austria and Poland. And when it was all over, very few of those countries ended up with the kind of government their electorate wanted. Poland, for example, was occupied by the USSR until relatively recently.

Germany invaded France and most of Europe and bombed Britain. The Japanese bombed a usa protectorate

Germany, Japan and Italy were not democracies, any more than Afghanistan's Taliban was elected by the majority in a free and fair election. Yes, some Nazis were elected many years earlier, but they did away with elections around 1934.

By bringing World War II into this, you are begging the comparison. And asking the question "Why should civilians be hurt when it was their country's rulers, which they had not elected, who were to blame?"

I'm not judging World War II, but I just don't see how it demonstrates "a better way" to handle Afghanistan.
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Postby PMC » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:44 pm

Top Dog wrote:The terrorists were trained in Afghanistan but actually came from a number of mid-east countries. We should have stopped their money flow and picked on their sponsors.


It is a known fact that Osama Bin Laden was originally hired, trained, and funded by the CIA. Yes he has big bucks of his own from the family busineses, of which the Bush family was involved in/with. There is ample documentation of this too.

The people of Afghanistan and Iraq are pawns in a chess game that is run and controlled by those that insist money and profit is theirs alone.

Start your research here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
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