CHED's move from 1080 to 630

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CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby albertaboy4life » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:09 am

Some time ago there was a thread about when CHED changed frequencies.

According to Ira Wagman in Christopher H. Sterling's "The Museum of Broadcast Communications encyclopedia of radio" CHED signed on at 630 AM on 1 November 1962 with 10,000 watts day and night. At 1080, CHED only had 1,000 watts at night.
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby jon » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:37 am

Great information! All we had to go on before was this CHED chart with no mention of a frequency -- hardly conclusive evidence of a frequency change.

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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby jon » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:41 am

Some related changes from broadcasting-history.ca:
CKSA Lloydminster moved from 1150 to 1080 in 1965
CKYL Peace River moved from 630 to 610 "undated"
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby BossRadio » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:49 pm

Interesting chart composition. Just two "groups" in the Highwaymen and the Chordettes,neither of whom could be considered first or even second line 'Rock and Rollers'.
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby Jack Bennest » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:40 pm

The chart shown does not indicate a date or a frequency. Not sure what the real question is - so here is some history.

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History of CHED on Canadian Communications Foundation site


CHED signed on the air on March 3 or 4. It was scheduled to sign on in late 1953 but there were delays. CHED broadcast on a frequency of 1080 kHz with a full-time power of 1,000 watts, directional at night. The "ED" in the call sign represented the first two letters in Edmonton.

1956
Announcer Stu Phillips left CHED for CHCT-TV in Calgary.


1957
CHED 1080 had a power of 1,000 watts (directional at night) and had no network affiliation. Ownership of CHED Limited: M. H. Sibbald 80%, Lloyd Moffat 10% and E. A. Rawlinson 10%. Don McKay was CHED's manager while Lew Roskin was assistant manager. Jerry Forbes was production and program manager as well as music director.




On August 1, M. D. "Curly" Dyck became CHED's acting GM. He was commercial manager and replaced Don McKay. Dyck had been with the station since November of 1951.

CHED 1080 increased power from 1,000 watts to 10,000 watts (the had applied in 1956 for a power increase to 10,000 watts day and 1,000 watts at night)

CHED adopted a Top 50 (rock & roll) format.

1958
Retail sales manager Lew Roskin became general sales manager. News director Allan Slaight became CHED's national sales manager.

1964
In March, CHED was given approval to adjust its daytime radiation pattern.


Lloyd Moffat died unexpectedly.

On-air line-up: Jim Stanley (5-9 a.m.), John Scrimshaw (9-noon), Sam McGuire (noon-3), Jay Spark (3-6), Pat Harris (6-7), Al Anderson (7-midnight) and Don Kay (midnight-5). John McLeod did weekends and Wes Montgomery handled sports and Oil Kings play by play. Jerry Forbes had been promoted from program director to general manager. Keith James, who was originally hired to be promotions director, was promoted to program director. As a great "Programming Minded Team" Jerry & Keith went on a rebuilding plan to try to knock off competitor CJCA. John Scrimshaw later moved to the newsroom and Scott Cameron moved over from CJCA to do mid-mornings. Pat Harris was British and played the Beatles & other British groups to capitalize on the British Invasion.

1965
By this time, CHED had moved from 1080 kHz to 630 kHz. Power remained 10,000 watts full-time. Different day and night directional patterns were used.
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby Jack Bennest » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:41 pm

September 1961 is shown in upper left hand corner. Missed it the first time.
Is there a frequency?
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby jon » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:46 pm

Jack Bennest wrote:September 1961 is shown in upper left hand corner. Missed it the first time.
Is there a frequency?

No, there is not a frequency, which led several of us, a couple of years ago, to speculate that the frequency change was going to happen right then, so they didn't publish a frequency on their chart.

None of us have ever seen a CHED chart without a frequency shown.
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby glaherty » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:19 pm

jon wrote:Some related changes from broadcasting-history.ca:
CKSA Lloydminster moved from 1150 to 1080 in 1965
CKYL Peace River moved from 630 to 610 "undated"



Both those events very much comparable to the Moon Landing and the taking down of the Berlin Wall in history. Please don't take this personally but you are mired in minutia there.
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby Jack Bennest » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:25 pm

Lee - be honest .......is sports not mired in minutiae? :read2:
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby glaherty » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:26 pm

At times, sure.
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby Howaboutthat » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:45 pm

glaherty wrote:but you are mired in minutia there.



Are you new to this board? That's pretty much what's done here. :shock:
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby Dan Sys » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:14 pm

This is supposed to be a radio board, is it not?
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby glaherty » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:20 pm

Dan Sys wrote:This is supposed to be a radio board, is it not?



You must admit though that a small station changing its frequency from 630 to 610 who knows(or cares) when, is pretty trivial, even by these standards. Pretty sure I'm not wrong on that one.
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby jon » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:22 pm

This may or may not address the supposed "trivia" aspect of the Peace River and Lloydminster frequency changes, but they and CHED's frequency move are related.

CKYL had to move off 630 before CHED could move there. And CHED had to move off of 1080 before CKSA could move there. Knowing the CKYL and CKSA dates helps narrow down the CHED date.

Over the last 5 years, there has been a lot of talk and general interest (among those interested in Edmonton radio history) about the date of the CHED frequency change, especially since CCF's broadcasting-history.ca used to list it as the late 1960s.
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Re: CHED's move from 1080 to 630

Postby Jack Bennest » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:23 pm

To be fair to all - its a board of guys (not to many ladies) talking about radio, silver medals, getting old, hockey, the golden days of radio, the colour of sykes' socks and a lot more.

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